49 responses

  1. joy
    April 28, 2014

    hi, thanks for sharing this information.
    i have mastic in lumps. should i take 1 gm/day in 2 doses, just as with the pills. also, how should i take it? just swallow the lump? pound it and mix the powder with water? or some other way?
    thanks for your time.

    • Homemade Hints
      April 28, 2014

      Joy – I don’t know exactly what product you have, so first I would say follow the directions on the package, if any. If not, then I would divide it into 2 daily does of 500 mg each as the research suggests. Some will grind the mastic pieces up and fill empty gelatin capsules. I personally would have a hard time swallowing a lump just as is, so I don’t know about that. And whether it would dissolve in water so you could drink it as a solution, I’m not sure. It is very resinous. Although I know a traditional Greek drink, soumatha, is made with mastic, almond milk and water so maybe dissolving ground mastic gum in water would not a problem.

  2. hamada
    June 11, 2014

    Hi :-)
    Thanks for sharing your findings. I’m interested in trying the manuka honey to treat h. pylori. I’ll be getting the UMF 18+, how long should i take it for? And what dose do you suggest?
    Thanks a lot!

    • Homemade Hints
      June 11, 2014

      Hamada – One study had patients take four teaspoons of honey four times a day with food, one hour before a meal (breakfast, lunch and dinner) and just before going to bed. How long to take it for? Some suggest taking it for 2-4 months for complete eradication. You may feel better before then, but as with conventional prescription antibiotics, if you don’t consistently take the honey for the entire time, some bacteria may remain and your symptoms can return.

  3. Anna
    June 20, 2014

    Hi,

    Do I take honey and gum at the same time since both need to be taken on empty stomach before meals? Thanks :)

    • Homemade Hints
      June 20, 2014

      Anna – If you wanted to take both manuka honey and mastic gum, I assume it would be fine to take them at the same time. The suggested mastic gum dosage is twice a day, once before breakfast and once before bedtime. So the before breakfast dosage would overlap with the honey dosage. But I have never taken both at the same time and have not found any information regarding the pros or cons of doing so. I wouldn’t expect it to be a problem combining them, but I cannot say for sure.

  4. Lexus
    July 8, 2014

    You should have taken higher MGO/UMF grade, as 100+/10+ is the lowest active grade and it’s recommended mostly for minor colds.
    H. pylori is sometimes extremely resistant to antibiotics and there are cases in which no combination of antibiotics works.
    For those people, it is recommended the MGO 550+ or UMF 25+ which is the highest grade and the most potent Manuka honey (also the most expensive, unfortunately).
    That’s what I’ve read online, according to multiple studies and first hand accounts from people who tried. I hope it helps someone to heal.

    • Homemade Hints
      July 8, 2014

      Lexus – Yes, I agree if you have a particularly stubborn case of an H. pylori infection, especially one that didn’t respond to a triple or quad therapy (antibiotics combined with other drugs), then you should try a stronger MGO/UMF Manuka Honey. I did in fact use UMF 25+ Manuka Honey for my own treatment. The MGO 100+ and UMF 10+ are the minimum ratings that have been shown to eradicate H. pylori. If one is not concerned with price, then they should purchase a stronger honey from the start.

  5. Saroj
    August 15, 2014

    Hi, after taking mastic gum did you test negative for H.pylori or did you assume you don’t have the bacteria because your symptoms disappeared. I am nursing my 3 month old and have recently found that I have H. Pylori. I would prefer to not take antibiotics. Would it be safe to do the 30 day mastic gum therapy while nursing? Are there any side affects from eating mastic gum. Thank you.

    • Homemade Hints
      August 15, 2014

      Saroj – I did not get a test for H. pylori after my symptoms went away. Unfortunately, I cannot find any study that says whether it is safe or not to take mastic gum while nursing. Web MD states this about using mastic gum while breastfeeding:

      Special Precautions & Warnings:
      Pregnancy and breastfeeding: Not enough is known about the use of mastic during pregnancy and breast-feeding. Stay on the safe side and avoid use.

      Of course you can ask your doctor if it would be safe, but my guess he/she would say no because very few herbs and their effects have been studied on breastfeeding infants. If you have a trained herbalist in your area, they may be able to give you more information about its safety. Just FYI, here is a list of herbs to avoid while nursing.

  6. Leigh
    September 11, 2014

    I’m experiencing symptoms of H. Pylori, but a recent blood test came back negative for the infection. I’m so stumped about the cause of my horrific halitosis and acid reflux. I literally have the worst case of bad breath which can full up an entire room, smells like ammonia. It’s has me so depressed I asked my doctor to put me out of work until next week. I have no clue what to do, so completely lost. Please help me, tell me what do you recommend? Also what brand of the Manuka Honey did you use and how much does it cost?

    • Homemade Hints
      September 11, 2014

      Leigh – What did your doctor recommend as a method to reduce your acid reflux since your H. pylori test was negative?

      • KushP
        October 4, 2014

        Hello,
        Just to echo Leigh here, I’m having similar issues:
        -Abdominal pain
        -Heart burn or pain
        -Constipation
        -Lot of Gas production in intestines
        -Horrid bad breath
        -Weight Loss
        Which all indicates person should be having HP. In fact I have had HP a year and half ago, I also went through lots of treatments but above mentioned symptoms never gone. Recently I did stool antigen test for HP which came negative so wondering how these symptoms are sticking with me still. Can u please research further and tell me how I can get rid of it. As I am feeling hopeless and helpless now.
        Thanks, KP

      • Homemade Hints
        October 4, 2014

        KushP – What kind of treatments did you go through? It is possible to have a false-negative result from a stool antigen test for H. pylori if you were taking any medications (antibiotics, proton-pump inhibtors such as Prilosec, Prevacid, etc., and bismuth such as Pepto-Bismul) within the 2 weeks prior to stool collection.

  7. Irfan
    October 19, 2014

    I have H.Pylori Infection and I am currently taking antibiotics . Whether I can take honey and antibiotics at same time?

    • Homemade Hints
      October 20, 2014

      Irfan – I am not aware of any issues regarding taking manuka honey and antibiotics at the same time, but I recommend you consult with your doctor first.

  8. Meka
    October 23, 2014

    I have h.pylori and i have took the quad treatment twice and still have h.pylori…
    I would love to try the honey which one would you recommend? Also what dosage and for how long?
    Thanks in advance!

    • Homemade Hints
      October 24, 2014

      Meka – Buy Active Manuka Honey with an UMF rating of at least 10+ or contains at least 100mg/kg of MGO (methylglyoxal). This Manuka Honey fits that criteria. Take a teaspoon 20 minutes before every meal on a small piece of bread, cracker or something similar for 2-4 months. You may feel better much sooner than that but to completely eradicate the bacteria, you will need to take it for several months.

  9. MEKA
    October 24, 2014

    THANK YOU..!!!!!…

  10. MEKA
    October 24, 2014

    I’m allergic to wheat…Is there another way I can take it?

    • Homemade Hints
      October 25, 2014

      Your welcome, Meka. And you can take it with any wheat-free/gluten-free food you like.

      • MEKA
        October 29, 2014

        You recommended 10+ Honey I got it today…..
        Just a quick question is it going to be strong enough??.. Being that I took the quad treatment twice and this nasty bacteria is still here…!!…

      • Homemade Hints
        October 29, 2014

        Meka – The 10+ should be fine. Studies have shown that it is strong enough to kill the bacteria, but there are no guarantees since everyone is different. Just like the quad treatment works for some people, but in your case it did not. The same goes for the honey. Just remember to take it consistently for at least 2 months, some recommend four months.

  11. Sally
    October 27, 2014

    Hello, can I take synthroid along with manuka honey 16+ and mastic gum at the same time in the morning? Also what is the dosage for the honey? This is to eradicate H. Pylori.
    Thank you in advance.

    • Homemade Hints
      October 28, 2014

      Sally – There is no data I know of regarding the interaction of taking Synthroid with manuka honey and/or mastic gum. I would recommend you ask your doctor first. If you are able to take the honey, one common dosage recommendation is to take one teaspoonful 20 minutes before every meal on a small piece (1-2 inches) of food like bread, cracker, banana, apple or any food you prefer for 2-4 months. You may feel better much sooner than that but to completely eradicate the bacteria, you will need to take it for several months.

  12. kam
    November 26, 2014

    Hello, I am having problems of stomach pain (upper abdomen) and burping especially after meals, that leads to so much discomfort and sometime a lump-like feeling in my throat. I am having this problem since last year, October. Recently in August I had an endoscopy and was found positive for h.pylori and antral gastritis. I have completed my first triple therapy dose but no signs of relief is there. I lost my job because of this continuous problem. Currently I am on sompraz and normaxin medicine but I do not have any relief yet. Should I go for mastic and manuka honey? I ask my doctor for this but he didn’t allow me to take it. What should I do and should I also go for another test for h. pylori…. pls help.

    • Homemade Hints
      November 26, 2014

      Kam – What does your doctor suggest since the first triple therapy didn’t work? He does not want you to take mastic gum or manuka honey (not surprising), but does he offer you any alternatives? Or is he/she telling you to take the Sompraz and Normaxin for awhile and see if it helps? How long have you been taking those medications? It is possible to get false negatives for the h. pylori test, so yes, you could take another test, but you need to be off any medications before taking another.

      • kam
        November 28, 2014

        I am taking these acids suppressing pills since last year and currently taking sompraz and normaxin since last two or three months after my triple therapy doses are finished but I want a permanent relief from this problem, one doctor also said that ur problem has nothing to do with hpylori. I dont know should I go with these mastic gum or not, as I have read so many positive reviews for it, plz help
        And I dont understand y d doctr is not going for quad therapy, rather than these acid suppressing pills

      • Homemade Hints
        November 30, 2014

        Kam – The doctor that says your problem has nothing to do with H. pylori – what does he think is the source of your stomach pain? If your stomach problem is not caused by the bacteria (which perhaps is why your test is negative), then Manuka honey and/or mastic gum may not be the best choice for you. In general, they are both good for maintaining a healthy gastrointestinal system and for specifically eradicating the H. pylori bacterium, but if you have other stomach problems, they may need to be treated by other methods.

  13. Cristian Figueroa
    December 8, 2014

    Hey there, just a question regarding the mastic gum and Manuka honey regimen. I am a young man (19 years old) and for the past 3-4 years I’ve had several GI issues including bloating, acid reflux, burping/belching, loose stools etc. I went to the doctor and tested negative for H.pylori, he said it was just IBS.. Didn’t really help me much, so I am kind of at a loss here and sick of feeling this way, just wondering if it’s okay to take these two natural remedies for a couple of months as recommended as a way to help with these symptoms even if I don’t have h.pylori and if it would be safe to take if you do not have h.pylori, Thanks for your time.

    • Homemade Hints
      December 8, 2014

      Cristian – Like other herbal supplements, taking Manuka honey and/or mastic gum may cause adverse interactions with prescription and OTC medications or may inhibit or increase the effects of some drugs. So if you are taking any medications, consult with your physician first before taking either. With that said, both Manuka honey and mastic gum are used for general digestive health (not just for H. pylori treatment) so I would assume it could help with your IBS, but there are no absolutes. There has been a study (pdf), however, that demonstrated regular use of Manuka honey can help alleviate IBS and ulcerative colitis symptoms.

  14. kam
    December 9, 2014

    Hello , regarding your reply….. “Kam – The doctor that says your problem has nothing to do with H. pylori – what does he think is the source of your stomach pain? If your stomach problem is not caused by the bacteria (which perhaps is why your test is negative),”…Here i just want to mention that my test for h.pylori was positive at the time of my endoscopy is done and also antral gastritis was found . Anyway right now i’m taking one tab of sompraz in morning and one tab normaxin in night before meal since last 15 or 20 days (one month course) as suggested by doctor….So here i just wanna know that should i go for another stool antigen test for h.pylori . whether this bug is eradicated or not?

    • Homemade Hints
      December 10, 2014

      Kam – So it has been a few months since you completed the triple dose therapy, correct? Since you have not had any relief from your symptoms, I’m guessing it wouldn’t hurt to take another stool antigen test. This way if you test negative after originally testing positive, then you would know that it is not H. pylori causing your gastritis. In regards to the antigen test, it is important to note that:

      False-negative results may be obtained on specimens from patients who have ingested selected medications (antimicrobials, proton pump inhibitors, bismuth preparations) within the 2 weeks prior to specimen collection. If clinically indicated, the test may be repeated on a new specimen obtained 2 weeks after stopping treatment with these medications. Positive results are not affected by medication.

      A positive result 7 days or more after starting therapy is indicative of ineffective treatment or recurrence. Testing for eradication should be performed at 4 or weeks post therapy; a negative result at this time indicates eradication of the infection.

      • kam
        December 11, 2014

        So should I wait for 2 or 4 weeks (after the medication course) before this antigen stool test?

      • Homemade Hints
        December 12, 2014

        Kam- If it has been more than 4 weeks since your initial triple therapy, then you would only need to wait 2 weeks after stopping any other medications before taking the stool antigen test. You will need to ask your doctor, however, since these are general guidelines and your case may be different.

  15. Tora
    December 21, 2014

    Hi! Is there any difference between the nutricology brand and the Jarrow brand. I have been on the Jarrow brand for 2 months now. Thought I would try the Nutricology one since its vegetarian etc. Do you think it is okay to make the shift? After starting with Mastic Gum (I have had Pylori for 2 years now) I definitely feel better! Let me know about your experience with Nutricology.

    • Homemade Hints
      December 21, 2014

      Tora – I have taken both the Jarrow and the Nutricology brands of Mastic Gum and they both worked for me, I couldn’t tell any difference. If you prefer one over the other (i.e., vegetarian capsules), I don’t see any reason not to try them out. Glad you’re feeling better! :)

  16. Taifkhan
    January 8, 2015

    Hi! I am H.pylori positive after medication of clarithromycine and metronidazole and lansoprazole (Prevacid) used for 14 days and after one month I did a stool antigen test and it’s still positive.
    Please I want to use herbal mediation like mastic gum so what is the procedure?
    Shall I take week 1: 1 g mastic gum before breakfast for week
    Week 2: 2 g mastic gum before breakfast and before lunch divided by two doses
    Week 3: 3 g mastic gum before breakfast and before lunch and before dinner divided by three doses
    And shall I used pure mastic gum swallowed with water or ? and can i also use a proton inhibitor like esomeprazole (Nexium) with mastic gum to get quick recovery? So please guide me.

    • Homemade Hints
      January 8, 2015

      Taifkhan – Since you went through the triple therapy, you may want to consider taking another stool antigen test because sometimes there are false positives.
      If you want to take mastic gum, the recommendation from studies suggest taking a total of 1 gram (1,000 mg) daily for a minimum of 2 weeks. Where did you find the dosage information that you referred to – increasing it to 3 grams?
      Yes, you can use pure mastic gum, instead of capsules, if you prefer. You can grind the resinous pieces into a powder and then swallow with water.
      There are no clinical references as to whether taking esomeprazole (Nexium) in combination to mastic gum will speed-up eradication of H. pylori, nor if there are any adverse side effects when taken together so I cannot say whether or not you should take it or not. Were you taking any other over-the-counter drugs in addition to the 3 drugs you mentioned while being treated?

  17. gilda
    February 19, 2015

    My GP gave me a blood test which came back negative, my gastroenterologist had me do a Breath Test which came back positive. Which is more accurate? He gave me a triple dose of antibiotics, with no relief. Have you ever heard of taking Manuka honey along with probiotics? Should I just take the honey or take honey and the gum?

    • Homemade Hints
      February 20, 2015

      Gilda – The urea breath test can have inconsistent results. The blood test is a little better, especially for negative results, but the stool antigen test (HPSA test) has been shown to be the most reliable. However, it cannot be taken if you are on any antibiotics, proton pump inhibitors, or peptol bismol medications. You have to wait at least 2 weeks to take the HSPA test or else a false-positive result may occur.

      I am not aware of any reason why Manuka honey cannot be taken with probiotics. I have taken both the Manuka honey and mastic gum with good results, but it’s up to you. Some people do well with just the Manuka honey while others have success with mastic gum.

  18. Claire Bear
    February 21, 2015

    Hi all like most of you I have the same symptoms and have had triple treatment, but nothing has worked. I’m now trying mastika and honey – fingers crossed. It’s a bit ironic that I have H Pylori, as I’m a nutritionist and teach food safety! For you guys that have symptoms but tested negative, you may have a yeast infection or eat too much processed carbs and sugar. I suggest cutting out sugar and reducing carbs for 30 days and try a Vit C supplement

    • Homemade Hints
      February 21, 2015

      Claire – Hope the mastika and honey combo works for you. Let us know how it goes. And good suggestion for those testing negative, but still having symptoms. Candida yeast infections can cause gastrointestinal symptoms similar to H. pylori such as heartburn, gas, bloating, constipation or diarrhea, cramps, nausea, gastritis, colitis, etc.

  19. Elle
    March 16, 2015

    Since I have antibodies for h pylori and failed to finish a round of quad therapy due to it being intolerable, I am using mastic gum, triphala, cat’s claw, coconut oil, GSE, lemongrass oil, going gluten and dairy free. So far so good. Since I took peptobismol on the quad therapy I read on a medical site that in order to have a valid stool test I need to wait four weeks. Hopefully, I will report success.

    • Homemade Hints
      March 18, 2015

      Elle – Hope all goes well. You have an interesting alternative treatment plan. Let us know how it works out!

  20. Concerned Momma
    March 18, 2015

    My 4 almost 5 year old daughter was just diagnosed with h pylori. The pediatrician also wants to test my 2 year old son who is not eating well and well both children put things in their mouths! They also said my husband and I should be test as we both also have some GI symptoms. I prefer a more natural approach to things and decided I would just put the entire family on a holistic regiment! My question: would I dose my daughter :37lbs and son:25lbs the same as my husband and I? Asking their pediatrician would be of no use! I’ve asked about more holistic treatments and lifestyle before and was SHUT DOWN!! Can’t change dr because of insurance ;)!

    • Homemade Hints
      March 18, 2015

      Concerned Momma – I would not assume to dose your children the same as adults. However, I haven’t yet found any specifics for suggested holistic dosages for children. Also, children may not tolerate certain alternative treatments like adults. For example, regardless of dosage, a study determined that children ingesting mastic gum may develop diarrhea (Ford R, et al. Mastic absolute. Food Chem Toxicol . 1992;30(suppl):71S-72S). Depending on which alternative treatments you want to try i.e., manuka honey, mastic gum, DGL, etc., I would ask the manufacturer directly for a suggested dosage for your children. And yes, I doubt you’ll ever find a conventional doctor prescribe you anything but conventional drugs.

  21. 35 year old with bad breath
    March 20, 2015

    Hi, is it ok to use the honey and the gum without a diagnosis h pylori? I have really bad breath that I believe is caused from h pylori – I haven’t gotten tested yet. I have tried everything to alleviate the bad breath but nothing seems to work. Also, will they work while I’m currently on antibiotics (just had some teeth pulled)? Thanks!

    • Homemade Hints
      March 20, 2015

      Manuka honey and mastic gum is relatively safe to use, but I cannot say whether it is definitely safe for you to use. Each person must use precaution when using any treatment, herbal or otherwise. And without a definite diagnosis you won’t know for sure whether you are treating H. pylori or not. You can always try the suggested dosages and monitor yourself to see whether it improves you bad breath or not. There is no data as to whether prescription antibiotics will affect the manuka honey or mastic gum efficacy.

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